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William Brosam
March 25, 2013, 3:37pm Report to Moderator
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thanks for the warning joel i ordered them off ebay, so im hoping they will be good no decent rv dealers in this area without driving 1-2hours.

i ordered the 12" T5 led bulbs on ebay for 2 for 30$ free shipping, and ordered 4 of the T8 18"ers for 69$ free shipping so hopefully they work as stated and dont have to return but only time will tell.

my stacker is getting delivered this week maybe wednesday man am i excited! now i need to search for a good deal on a trailer toad.


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Dave Cunningham
March 26, 2013, 4:45am Report to Moderator
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Hey William, what did you pick up for a stacker? Hydraulic lift, fuel station? I cheaped out on mine and went with a winch operated ramp lift, which works good but wish I had spent a bit more for the stinger. I only paid $10,000.00 for it though, and it is pretty descent , and very light also.
You said you got a 26 footer , are you concerned about being over the 65' length limit? With my new 45'er and my 20' stacker , which is actually 25'  with the tounge , which puts me at 70' , haven't tried it yet, but I do see 45' Prevosts ,pulling 25. -30' stackers all the time in California, hopefully they don't enforce it much.

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William Brosam
March 26, 2013, 12:38pm Report to Moderator
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2008 United, 26ft box 5ft tongue.

8ft loft 13ft lift 4000# capacity

11' interior height

im now searching for a tool box no wider then 45" for the drivers side between lift and loft

this trailer cost 26,000

i was gonna order new but they said 14week wait and i said oh no ill buy used n save some $$ new was gonna be upto 45k for the one i wanted



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Bernie Vujicic
March 26, 2013, 3:47pm Report to Moderator
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Hi William,

Have you beefed up your hitch? Also what did they tell you your trailer weighs? I would be surprised if you didn't weight almost 10,000 lbs empty and if you beefed your hitch to 15,000 lbs you can't put to much in it. My 20ft Featherlite ways 6900 lbs empty and the car we take is 5000lbs and the golf cart is 1000 and other junk puts me at 14,000 lbs loaded. There is alot of stuff you'll run into regarding receiver size, probably 2 inch and ball mount or pintle hook for the coach. I can probably answer alot of your questions if you want to give me a call.
310-242-7880

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William Brosam
March 27, 2013, 1:56pm Report to Moderator
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soon as the weather clears up ill be dropping my hitch to rework it.

i found the aluminum stackers to actually weigh more then the steel framed ones for an extra 8000$

because the aluminum needs so much more cross bracing it was coming in 1500-2200lbs more weight.

ive been thinking about a trailer toad/tuff tow but not sure there is a 3500# version 2hr drive from me used i was supposed to look at last night but after trying to put in contacts for the first time for an hour jabbing myself in the eye i was ready to go home.



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Randy Perry
March 27, 2013, 10:49pm Report to Moderator

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Be careful traveling in certain parts of California, if you're over 65'.  On the I-10 around Indio, there's a CHP officer who's well known for lighting you up!!


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Dave Cunningham
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Hey randy, what do they do to you if you are over, I am going to be around the 70' mark with my new rig, do you just get a fine and get to keep going?
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William Brosam
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ive heard a few different things something like 200$ a ft over, and ive also heard they could make you drop the trailer there and come get it with something else. its really a rare instance in most states except Cali and Fl are known for being picky about it.

ill be 71ft hooked up unless i get a trailer toad and then about 73ft


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Richard And Babs Ames
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We see a lot of illegal triple tows in FL and thay are ignored 99.9999 percent of the time.

The worst case was a 45 ft Prevost Conversion with a 35 ft Double Decker Trailer and a 4 door sedan being towed 4 wheels down on the back of the trailer. My guess he was between 95 and 100 ft long.


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Randy Perry
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Quoted from Dave Cunningham
Hey randy, what do they do to you if you are over, I am going to be around the 70' mark with my new rig, do you just get a fine and get to keep going?


My buddy had a TowTerHome towing a 40' stacker and was 68' long. The CHP officer cited him and made him drop the trailer! I don't remeber what the fine was, but it was more of a hassle to get another tractor to drive the 110 miles to go get the trailer. I have another buddy that has a coach and stacker trailer that's around 75' and he swears by some formula that if the distance from the center of your tag axle is not more than "X" from the center of your froward axle on the trailer you're OK! I'm 66.5' and haven't been tagged yet (fingers crossed)


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Tom and Pam Brown
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Maximum combined length limits on most interstates is 70 feet. Whether its single double or triple.

Be aware that the bridge formula referenced in the last post applies to commercial vehicles not RV's.

Most states exclude RV's from most laws regarding liscense requirements but does not exclude overall length and axle weight requirements.
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William Brosam
April 1, 2013, 2:59am Report to Moderator
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So i had a productive Easter today,

installed 4x 18" led lights in bathroom area 2x in the toilet area 12" long wired around the ballasts as the ballasts dont provide enough power and just heat up the LED's alot.
made it alot brighter and should take alot less power to run when not usign shorepower/generator and shouldn't burn out as fast.

also ripped up all the old sealer in the bottom of shower and scraped it off man 4x layers of bad jobs just looked terrible i fixed it up and sealed it nicely inside and outside. still need to replace the rubber piece that stops the drops bouncing out under the shower door its missing.

Got the toys loaded into the trailer yesterday here is a photo



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David T. Richelderfer
April 1, 2013, 3:22am Report to Moderator

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You can take this for whatever worth you want....  I was told this by a young guy who has a Marquis towing a fancy and long enclosed stacker trailer.  He claims to be just over 65 feet when hooked up.  He told me to join the NHRA to get an NHRA sticker and place it on the trailer, or whatever is being towed.  He claimed the NHRA sticker exempted the unit from length restrictions in every state.  I am not going to bet alot of money on this being fact... but maybe somebody knows if it's BS or caviar... or someone who has a length problem might care to check it out.  I am not a NASCAR nor NHRA fan... so perhaps one of you is.


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William Brosam
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http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/trucks/exemptions/motorsports.html

doesn't apply to RV's though. took me about an hour to find it


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William Brosam
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So picked up a toolbox today after some bargaining i got a good price and brought it home in the rain 2 hours back to the camp ground!






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